2022 UCSD KD Parent Symposium Q&A Session
Watch the annual Kawasaki Disease Parent Symposium hosted by the University of California San Diego, Kawasaki Disease Research Center via the link below, or scroll down to read the transcribed questions and answers asked during the Q&A session 1.
Q&A Session 1- Kawasaki Disease Parent Symposium, October 29, 2022 – Transcript
1. If we can expand on the idea of what a “febrile” control patient is, what are some
 examples of these patients’ diagnoses?
If your child has a fever and one of the five criteria for Kawasaki Disease so could be a
 big lymph node in the neck it could be bloodshot eyes it could be a rash or could be some
 combination of those are red lips swollen hands and feet if they have something that looks a little
 bit like Kawasaki Disease the child will be offered enrollment as a member of the study.
2. What is Anakinra’s intended use, how is it administered, and can it be used as a
 single-dose treatment?
Anakinra actually disintegrates very quickly, and so it really only lasts a little while less
 than a day in the body, so sometimes it needs to be administered multiple times a day which
 makes the IV dosing easier. In our city, we gave it for about 2 to 6 weeks and now our current
 use in the hospital for a child that’s on Anakinra will be to administer it while they’re doing their
 hospitalization stay, which can be any number of days. Anakinra is actually difficult to give as an
 outpatient drug outside the study that we did because of the lack of FDA approval, specifically
 for KD, so we’re now trying to find other drugs that work like Anakinra but last longer in the
 body to see if that’s an option to last a little bit longer to affect the inflammation.
3. Is the biValent booster safe?
Yes, the biValent booster is safe. The COVID vaccine in children helps to prevent MIS-C.
4. Are there any lung effects of Kawasaki DIsease that we should be aware of?
Fortunately, the lungs are not a majorly affected organ.
5. What age is recommended for the calcium tests?
Calcium deposition is first reported after a decade of Kawasaki Disease. The most
 important patients to get calcium tests are those who endured giant or medium aneurysms. CT
 calcium tests are most important for patients with significant coronary artery involvement.
 Typically 13-16 years of age as the first time.
6. Is it recommended to examine one that had Kawasaki disease over 10 years ago now
 that there is testing and data that was not there 10 years ago?
 If you are aware of any heart abnormalities during or after diagnosis or are not sure, one
 should automatically order a CT calcium score. If it is negative, then it is unlikely that one had
 bad damage to their vessels. The CT calcium scores tell if one had calcium deposition, which is
 important to know if unaware of the status of your vessels.
7. Is there anyone I can contact by phone at a Boston Hospital?
 There is a Kawasaki group at Boston Children’s Hospital led by Dr. Jane Newberger.
8. There has been news about COVID causing heart issues in people who had COVID.
If a Kawasaki patient who had no heart involvement had COVID, should they be
 checked or monitored for possible heart issues from COVID? What signs should
 they look for?
COVID can cause heart inflammation in general. It does not seem to affect Kawasaki
 patients any differently than the general population. If your COVID illness was mild– able to
 stay home, fever, headache, cold– we don’t screen any of those children. If your course was
 severe like you needed to go to the emergency room or you were admitted to the hospital, or had
 a diagnosis of myocarditis; those patients will need to come back to Cardiology.
9. How are occlusion aneurysms treated in adolescence?
In all of our patients that have persistent coronary aneurysms; they are all on
 anticoagulation, so if the vessels are very big and you still have giant or large aneurysms, then
 we always put you on an antiplatelet agent such as aspirin or Plavix. We put most of our patients
 on Apixaban which is an oral medication that keeps the blood thin so many many places in the
 world use something like Coumadin, which is a blood thinner that we use for valve replacements
 and things like that. We here use newer oral agents that keep the blood thin and don’t require a lot
 of lab monitoring, so if you have large aneurysms, we treat you with antiplatelet agents, systemic
 anticoagulation, and atorvastatin statin; to help the vessels be as healthy as they can be.
10. Any updates on kids that took Lipitor with Kawasaki Disease that had no
 aneurysms?
We do. There is this rare time, where now that we’re doing CT scans and adolescence, so
 for instance, let’s say you have a 15-year old who had some heart involvement but it got better
 and we think it’s all remodeled. There’s times where we bring those kids in for CT scans and find
 out that the vessels aren’t quite normal, so the echo only really shows the very beginning part of
 the vessel,but in the CT scan we get the benefit of seeing everything and so there’s times we’ve
 looked at the CT scan and then you know what like they don’t look quite normal they’re just
 mildly dilated or they’re mildly kind of something we say “ectatic” like the edges aren’t very
 clear. We do put those patients on Lipitor and we hope that over time that their vessels will
 become healthier, have the normal reactivity, and perhaps remodel a little bit. We don’t have that
 data yet because now that we’re using CT scans more frequently. You know, hopefully, we can
 get that data going forward but we do tend to recommend Lipitor and, hopefully, in the future,
 we’ll have better information about what happens.
11. Why is Infliximab given only once?
The way that we designed that initial study was based on the pharmacology of infliximab
 which seems to last in the body somewhere between three to five weeks so the thought um
 initially and that has really proven probably to be right is that that’s really the point in which we
 can make the most impact in terms of decreasing coronary artery inflammation because most of
 that inflammation happens initially and we do not give a second dose of infliximab. I know that
 there was a family there that said that they did get a second treatment and there may have been
 some issues with allergies. The issues with allergies do not happen with the single dose but
 because this is an antibody you can develop an allergy to that treatment. I mean that’s well
 reported in other diseases where we give more than one dose.
12. What is Doxycycline?
Doxycycline is an antibiotic that has an anti-inflammatory process. There’s an ongoing
 study in Hawaii that as far as I know was still enrolling and looking at also having a decrease in
 inflammation using doxy and KD patients but I do not believe that that has actually finally been
 published.
13. Someone submitted a question asking about “mtor” Inhibitors?
Used in all different kinds of diseases but also again to attack in the inflammatory process
 for a study out of Melbourne: someone was asking if I believe we’re doing any work here with
 that I’m not aware of anything being done in the U.S.
14. Is the use of ethnic data used in the collection of the lab results for Kid Match as
 well as coronary artery diameter?
We do collect that data and we use that as part of something called sensitivity analysis
 which is basically saying uh is the performance replicated across different groups.
15. How much benefit will that add to the kinds of things that we already have to
 diagnose KD?
We don’t know.
16. Are there any occurrences of Kawasaki Disease aneurysms in adolescents?
So typically I’m not exactly sure how to interpret this question. I’m going to answer it
 both ways. Potentially so if you have an aneurysm and it has been remodeled. We have not seen
 that then become an aneurysm again, so we have seen perhaps it’s not completely remodeled
 when we repeat CT scans in adolescents but we don’t all of a sudden see new aneurysms so in
 that sense the aneurysms like don’t recur.
17. Can children develop KD again in adolescence?
There is a recurrence rate of KD within 6-8 weeks, but it is very low and does not tend to
 occur in adolescence.
18. Does calcium build up due to Warfarin use?
Warfarin is rat poison and is the generic term for Coumadin. Coumadin is the brand name
 so many many patients are on these medicines like tens and hundreds of thousands because of
 atrial fibrillation valve replacement. There’s lots of reasons to use Warfarin as an adult and in
 children. We used to use it due to being the only way to thin the blood well enough when you
 had a giant aneurysm. Now one could use a shot of Lovenox or Heparin, but the shot has to be
 given twice a day so that’s why we moved towards these newer oral medications that you take by
 your mouth like you crush a pill and put it in water or whatever and amazingly here I will say
 there are not that many patients with residual giant aneurysms it really is a very small number of
 patients like we can count them on two hands the number of patients that we follow in pediatrics
 with persistent aneurysm. I think that’s a testament to how aggressive the therapy is up front
 which is why we’re trying to get the message out across the world and the country, right, because
 even when you move slightly east of here, anywhere, I don’t know that the treatment end is at
 aggressive, so in our persistent aneurysm patient, so we don’t use Warfarin, so we don’t see
 calcium buildup in our patients because we don’t use it. In all these other patients that are
 chronically on it for valve disorders and things like that, because I also followed his mechanical
 valves, we absolutely do you see calcium buildup and it can be impressive and you can do a
 chest x-ray on a 15 year old has been on coumadin for 8 years and their entire bronchial tree
 lights up of calcium, so there is a scientific reason why calcium buildup on patients with
 Warfarin, and that’s like a whole other topic that we just gave in Japan talking about why it’s
 important to find alternatives to warfarin use.
19. For CT calcium scores, is it a regular CT or a 5/12 CT?
If you go to get a CT calcium score it is a different type of CT in terms of how they
 acquire the images and it is if you go for a CT angiogram so they can use similar machines but
 it’s a different protocol it’s like a flash scan it just looks for calcium so I don’t know exactly but it
 has to be ordered a CT calcium score so the physician ordering it after a CT calcium score.
20. I had KD at the age of one, I had one giant aneurysm and have been on medication
 since. I am 15 now. What are the chances of required surgery, heart attack, etc.
 further into my lifetime?
There is a low risk of heart attacks with proper counseling on what you can and cannot do
 and medical therapy, and it is a rare thing to need surgery due to this issue.
21. What size Z-score would be considered an aneurysm?
A small aneurysm is z-scores of plus 2.5 to plus five. A medium aneurysm is plus five to
 plus ten and then a larger giant aneurysm is greater than plus 10 and we do have patients with
 z-scores of plus 20 and things like that in infancy so it can go as high as it needs to go small,
 medium, and large.
